Spoilerdome: GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY VOL. 2

I am Groot

Our long wait is over everyone. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 released nationwide yesterday and it’s a blast. We here at Lewton Bus love it but we also want to know what you think about it. So as per our usual tradition, we wanted to give those of you that have seen it a place to discuss the film in detail. What are your favorite parts? Who gave your favorite performance? What did you think about the ending?

Be forewarned, this is a spoiler rich environment. If you haven’t seen the film, turn back now or be forever spoiled. As for the rest of you, go at it in the comments!

  • “He may have been your father, but he sure as hell wasn’t your daddy.”

    Now, I loved Michael Rooker as Yondu in the first film, but I never would have predicted that not only would Yondu become a rounded character in VOL. 2, but he would become the emotional center of the movie.

    RIP Yondu Udonta. You may have been pretty as an angel, but you sure as hell weren’t one.

    • Allen

      He was Mary Poppins y’all

    • He may not have had the voice of an angel, but he had a whistle like one.

  • Lilgreenman

    This was probably the most specific movie its size since FURY ROAD: I can tell absolutely everything in the movie is something Gunn really cares about, which is why there’s so much of it all.

    It’s just smothered in those idiosyncratic touches, like the Looney Tunes-style physical comedy (fighting the space squid, anti-gravity bear traps, those bugfuck facial distortions during warp jumping) and the constant acknowledgement of sex within the larger space adventure stuff (Yondu’s sex bots, Drax’s graphic erection joke, Ego having a penis).

    • ryanrochnroll

      Gunn has somehow entered the meat grinder of the biggest machine in Hollywood and totally subverted it to make interesting and original films. What is life?

    • YayMayorBee

      Yeah, this is the first Marvel movie to really get into sex and love. I was super impressed by that.

  • Something

    Just want to point out that we live in a world where Sylvester Stallone, Michelle Yeoh, Ving Rhames, Michael Rosenbaum, and Miley Fucking Cyrus are a team of space criminals in the fifteenth film of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

    • Lilgreenman

      We live in a world where Stallone, Rhames and Yeoh are just acting in anything again, and that would be enough for me.

    • Wait, WHAT? MILEY IS IN THIS MOVIE? I love my life.

      • Something

        Yep! Small role in a post-credits scene, but she’s there and it rules.

  • Spoiler: the monster at the beginning was anti-family

    • Allen

      I see what you did there!

    • ryanrochnroll

      Damn liberals

    • Brian Lippman

      Is it legal for Baby/Teenage Groot to drink Coronas?

  • Allen

    I kinda love how they managed that fake out with Ego. It’s masterfully executed. The underlying current that he was apparently more than willing to straight up murder Peter if he hadn’t demonstrated abilities is bone chilling and recolors all of their interactions.

    • brunothepig

      Yeah on rewatch his reaction to Peter managing to wield the light becomes really unsettling.

  • The saddest thing for me the second time through was Rocket’s reaction to losing Yondu. The poor guy only had a day with the only other being he ever knew who was like him, the closest thing to a brother he’d ever had. In the end, everyone gets someone to be with except Rocket.

    • Allen

      The fact that they chose to end on a shot of Rocket crying was pretty bold and surprisingly powerful. Dude keeps losing friends. Baby Groot isn’t the same as his old buddy Groot since he lost all of his memories and Rocket clearly wasn’t ready to become a parent to his best friend.

  • ryanrochnroll

    Ego’s plan to propagate himself at the cost of his future generations was excellent thematic stuff. Folding it in with a story about how we take from those we love to avoid intimacy and vulnerability was expert level stuff. Gunn is a master.

  • ryanrochnroll

    Making Ego a celestial and giving him the same motivation as Earth X is deeply nerdy shit. Making Peter half celestial is fucking ballsy and I can’t wait to see what they do with it.

    If Ego had let his planet simply act as a planet, would the core have become one of the giant standard Celestials or no?

    • Brian Lippman

      I wonder if they can do more with Peter being part Celestial. Ego seemed to imply that once his core was destroyed, Peter would also lose all the benefits of being half Celestial.

      • ryanrochnroll

        But in 1 Glenn Close says it’s something in his makeup. And his nature allowed him to hold the stone. He’s never been to Ego before now. I think there’s still something within him

        • Brian Lippman

          But “the light” still existed at that point and he would have had some sort of connection to it even then, even though he didn’t know about it.

          • ryanrochnroll

            Maybe, but I think my nature of his genetics there is more at play. I don’t think he’ll get super powers or anything, but he’s def got some more plot rolling around in his veins.

          • David The Pants

            Possibly, but the thematics in the climax suggest he sacrifices immortality and all his other powers to be ‘just like everybody else.’ He’s even seemingly resigned to the fact that he’ll die there, until Yondu swoops in. And plot-wise, it’s cool to explain how he held the stone, by introducing explicitly his immortality, but in the same movie take it away so it won’t be one of those “powers a character forgets they have for plot conveniences” in future installments.

          • ryanrochnroll

            I agree with everything you’ve said here. I’m just saying with Gunn at the helm, I’m open to any silliness his celestial blood can unleash.

      • Ego was also a manipulator trying to get Peter to save his life. Peter’s a Celestial, and while he may not have the thousands/millions of years of experience Ego had to get his powers up to snuff, I think they can believably give him more powers than your standard earthling. Especially if simply wielding Ego’s light gave him a leg up getting started.

      • YayMayorBee

        There’s a visual touch (I forget exactly what) at Ego’s death that suggests Ego is telling the truth. I think it’s Peter’s light/fire extinguishing. Or something along those lines.

  • ryanrochnroll

    Yondu’s sacrifice is one of the most affecting moments in the Marvel universe. It’s honestly a complete shame that we won’t have any more of Michael Rooker in the MCU. I would have loved a team up with the Old Guardians.

    I also love that Peter kind of talks like a kid version of Yondu. His diction and sentence structure betray him has having been raised by Yondu for most of his life. I used to think it was because he was from Florida, but after 2 films you can hear the resemblance.

    “You shouldn’t have killed my mom… and squooshed my Walkman!”

    • brunothepig

      I fucking knew, as soon as Stallone mentions the Ravager funeral rites, that Yondu was doomed and I still cried during his funeral. What a beautiful scene.

  • ryanrochnroll

    Sean Gunn’s arc in this as the jealous little brother is honestly excellent. I can’t believe how well it works. And how subtle it is.

  • ryanrochnroll

    Yondu Udonta is the best character in the MCU. DISCUSS.

    • I don’t know who that is outside of your review, but Falcon is my honeybaby and I will fight you

  • I really really dug this. A few stray observations:

    1. I enjoyed how, unlike in GotG1, Thanos actually served a narrative and thematic purpose, despite never actually appearing on screen.

    2. The opening credits, following Little Dumber Groot through his dance number as the epic monster battle happens in background, is of course charming and hilarious. But I also dig how the same technique is used for a very different effect near the end, as Yondu makes his final sacrifice. His sacrifice and death and Peter’s reaction is foregrounded as there’s a goddang PLANET IMPLODING in the background, almost as an afterthought. It makes the giant FX-driven spectacle seem small in comparison to the human drama and emotion.

    3. What a shockingly powerful ending. I was tearing up like it was the end of FURIOUS 7.

    • Allen

      Yeah I saw one film critic point out that it’s quite possible that the reason that Gunn is pulling back right at the last moment on dramatic beats throughout the film, so that when he doesn’t pull the punch at the very end and strips away almost all of the jokes in the aftermath of Yondu’s death, the gut punch is devastating. He sets you up because you think that each sad or serious moment is going to be followed by a joke to ease the tension and then when he doesn’t do it at the end it is that much more impactful.

    • YayMayorBee

      I like the symbolism of a world imploding while Peter loses his dad. Very clever.

  • This is not a shirt I would generally wear, but it made me giggle a bit.

  • @ryanrochnroll:disqus, in your review you mention something about the film possibly borrowing from SHIN GODZILLA. Can you elaborate?

    • ryanrochnroll

      The timing here is probably impossible. But when Rocket covers the ship in those laser emitters and dozens of beams of light decimate the ships around them, it’s visually eerily similar to this scene in SHIN GODZILLA.
      https://youtu.be/ZtxmZvVeA7o

      • Oh, yeah! I forgot about that. The association I made was the Death Blossom in THE LAST STARFIGHTER